Pope’s brother not an Adventist
Photo Source: Catholic News

Pope’s brother not an Adventist

Published on: 24 July, 2013

Silver Spring, Maryland, United States

The Seventh-day Adventist Church has responded to rumours claiming Pope Francis has an Adventist brother.

Dr John Graz, director of Public Affairs and Religious Liberty for the General Conference of the Adventist Church, said such claims have no basis in reality.

"There was a similar rumour circulating when John Paul II became Pope," said Dr Graz.

James Standish, director of Communications and Public Affairs in the South Pacific Division, said "these kinds of sensational rumours get people excited, but ultimately breed cynicism. We need to keep our eyes firmly fixed on Christ, and not on conspiracies."

*For more on conspiracy theories, click here.
 

29 comments

Add Comment
Profile_default

MR Gambetta is an eloquent speaker. There are many good topics he preaches, BUT he does introduce a bit, or too much, depending who you ask; of his own personal interpretations of current political topics. Im Adventist and have seen many of his videos. Not sure if by design or accident, but he likes to put fear into people, so that they come to Christ.
Here is one examples He is preaching to a group back in late 08, about a visit from the previous pope, Ratzinger (sp), and how House of Rep nancy Pelosi is under catholic control. The way he presented Pelosi to the crowd, it made it seem like, in just a few months the House will be voting on implementing catholic ideologies. But Gambetta does not fool me. Mrs Pelosi is from San Francisco, is pro gay rights, pro womens choice and her track record shows she is more "liberal" than conservative. But Gambetta didn't tell the crowd. Crowd thought in 08 that SOON many catholic house of reps will soon be voting on sunday laws.hes a bit alarmist

Profile_default

I fully support comments made by Lauren, Gabriel Rodriguez & Chris K.
It seems to me that that the SDA church has lost focus on the 3 Angels message and the Antichrist, given the amount of local pastors and missionary/evangelical SDA pastors who refuse to label the antichrist but rather tip toe around the topic to be politically correct. This political correctness, which our church has embraced in order to fall in line with with the ecumenical movement will cost the church dearly. Many will fall and bow but only a faithful few will stand. The SDA church should read the Great Controversy again I think.

Profile_default

I mistakenly posted about this subject. I was sent a message about my ignorance,and sent to read this article. I'm grateful,because I don't want to mislead anyone. God bless.

Profile_default

Papa Bergoglio es de padre y madre italiana y judía.
Los jesuitas y el papado fue Judaizados en el transcurso de 2 siglos después de Cristo. Es el misterio de la iniquidad de la última generación. En la imagen de familia del Papa que circula hay dos hermanos y dos hermanas del Papa francisco. Sin embargo, hay otra foto de familia con los abuelos y los padres que presentan a tres niños y dos niñas. Será un tercer hermano? Ver avventismoprofetico.it

Profile_default

A few weeks ago published an article where he clarified that the Pope did not have a Adventist brother, this publication was made in order to make known the official position of the church.

To confirm that the Church's position is correct, the same Hugo Gambetta has posted a video where apologizes and retracts what he said.

Profile_default

Would it not be prudent to interview Hugo R Gambetta and gather further details from him? This brother shared the information in a Seventh-day Adventist church and in front of a video camera knowing it would be broadcast. He is either grossly irresponsible or has said something that cries out for further investigation.

Profile_default

El tiempo pasa muy rapido , y JesuCrito regresara a nuestro planeta tierra muy pronto, leamos el Salmo 21,nos ayuda mucho, nos sentiremos muy protejido por nuestro amado Padre celestial,NUESTRA FE
NOS ENSENARA OCUPARNOS MAS POR NUESTRA SALVACION Y TODO LO DEMAS NO NOS PREOCUPARA. Dios os de PAZ.

Profile_default

With all due respect, Graz's comments are just as baseless, if not more so than Gambetta's. At least Gambetta is a fellow Argentine, who may be privy to this information. On the other hand, Graz offers no basis for the lack of basis suggested. In other words - with no proof against the allegation, how can you complain about the lack of proof supporting it?

Also, who are we to say whether Gambetta's wrong? Have you asked him directly? The guy's an evangelist who has brought many people to Christ. Have you done as much? If so, throw that first stone. Otherwise, let the man make his claims in peace and worry about your own life. That's what Jesus did (if you think we need to fix our eyes on Christ). If He were here today, I'm sure He wouldn't even bother answering these claims - that's more like what Pharisees would do.

Profile_default

I fully agree with the comments of Theresa, Maurice, Denis Ross, Lorrain and Gilbert. What we need in these days is to live a life like the one Jesus lived while on this earth as a man. If so we are fully prepared for His coming as well as any other persecution or threat we may have to face.

Profile_default

I'm only interested in knowing the core reason for the retirement of the other pope just recently.

Profile_default

I strongly believe that we should provide evidence to back up our claim. But in this case, I am siding with Pastor Gambetta on this case. Remember that the Spirit of Prophecy talks against the Jesuit order in the Great Controversy. Pope Francis is a Jesuit, he may be appear to be friendly and humble but he probably using that tactic to brainwash everyone just everyone will be ready to be deceived for the National Sunday Law. Pastor Gambetta seems to make a valid connection with the SOP and his claim about the Pope's brother.

Profile_default

I think it is high time for us to concentrate on spreading the gospel and stop wasting time in theories true or false that has nothing to do with the soon coming of Christ. What is that to the church if there is a brother or not. The point is we need to watch and pray and to keep our focus on Christ.

Profile_default

Interesting that Bruno Vertallier, Inter-European Region President, is who made the statement and claimed it untrue. Interesting that he is the same conference president who accused Walter Veith of anti-semitism and banned him from German Churches last year. Seems like anything not in line with their "new theology" is shot down and the preaching of the three angels message is now labeled a "conspiracy theory" so that the mind will automatically dismiss it as unbelievable, because it has been trained to do so whenever the term is used. The third angels message wiil be the biggest "conspiracy" if there ever was one, but it will be no "theory".

Profile_default

"...speeding the gospel", if we spend time living the gospel in it's purity, then the words of Jesus would come true "...and you will b my disciples n the world will know we r his disciples". He hasn't come because of YOU, US, WE! The truth of the matter is that WE think we can advert his word n we r trying (GC), to change history. Church wake up n lets acknowledge our iniquity before our God n turn away from our sins.

Profile_default

Who I wonder benefits from this story?Does it really matter if the Pope has an Adventist brother. Or what was or what was not said? Our intel is the best there is!!! We have a more sure Word of Prophecy which we would do well to take heed to as Light that shines in a very dark place. Check out Daniel and Revelation! You know what is going to happen and who will do it. Make you calling and election sure. Check out Eze.14:16-20. Pray for the Holy Spirit!! See John 15:26. That Truth will set you free. Hold fast that which you have that no man take your crown.

Profile_default

who is to say this is a conspiracy theory.Pastour Gabetta was shown in a video on Youtube, big deal. He stated something that to some is a truth and to others is not. So What. The General Conference should show some tact and simply not comment. To many SDA's because of the new theologies being taught, they, the men in responsible position are considered to have little creditability anyway.

Profile_default

It amazes me how backwards some people can be when it comes to the Bible and what our focus ought to be. If we spent more time telling people about Christ second coming and not about chasing some crazy rumor, men and women would know about Jesus, and what he can do in their lives.

Profile_default

1) The bigger and more unlikely the claim, the bigger the requirement for proof and/or substantiating evidence. Anyone who asks me to merely take their word for things is automatically triggering my baloney detector.

2) From family photos, Pope Francis only had two brothers, Oscar and Alberto, and no information is available for either one. Notice that Bro. Gambetta does not name the brother. Nor does he give any way whatsoever to document his claims.

3) If true, you would think this would have been big news at the minimum in Argentina.

Profile_default

This is my point:
Regardless of the story being truth or not. We must watch and be vigil, cause we fast approaching the end of all things.
There is a lot of speculation out there. But. Who says that we are not to believe our brothers and sister. Since when the General conference has become the only means that God uses to communicate with us, or let us know of the last final movements in history. Let's make something clear. I'm not discarding the church. But the organization is not the only way we can hear God's message. Ellen G White clearly said. That in the last days. God will operate in such a manner that it will be different from everything we are used to. Let's pray and study our bibles. Let's not believe everything we heard. But let's not be dogmatic either. Study everything. Retained the good.

Profile_default

Do you know that the change of the Saturday for Sunday as a holy day is the bigining of the end of this world ? The prophecy is clear.

Profile_default

Seems to be the norm anymore. Anything to draw attention to ourselves instead of Jesus. I am so tired of this world I can't wait for it to end. Only those who don't know Christ fear death.

Profile_default

Does not matter wht denomination u belong to, as long as we believe in ONE GOD.

Profile_default

Knowing what is going to take place before Jesus returns, adventists are obliged to investigate claims being made about issues close to Bible prophecy. To seek for truth and attempt to verify or deny stories are not in opposition to live and communicate love for eneryone.
The statement from GC say that the pope do not (at this time) have a SDA brother. We have not received an answer to the question: Did he have an older brother who is now dead? The previous SDA minister who gave all the details about "the brother", said that this brother was desclaimed by the popes family and would be a non-existent person. It would be correct if someone able to do a deeper investigation keep on seeking for more information.

Profile_default

Whatever is the truth in this. I still find it hard to just trust a statement from our leaders that has no element of proving why they say so.

2 other things as well.

1 - they use retoric.. making a remark that this is what they all say when we have a new pope, to make it seem ridiculous that anyone would belive it.

2 - by making this statment, they say that this man, telling all the details of the story, is nothing else but a lier that has fabricated the intire meeting with this brother.

Well whatever is the correct thing is not so very important for me or the rest of the world. (interresting but not improtant)

But if this statment is all the "proof" SDA will have then I'm clearly going to belive a minister that tell's a story of his life with many details and no sign of using retoric or fabricating as I can observe. :)

Profile_default

Who cares about the Pope, his siblings or the next King of the British Isles. There's only One Man we need concern ourselves about and you know who that is. Get that right and hopefully we all do; bcaus our lives depend on it.
I am the way, the truth....whoever believes in Me shall live forever.

Profile_default

It is difficult to not believe what has happened with this issue. But one can observe and try to do all he can to verify, verify, verify from alternative sources and to withhold judgment pro or con until it is settled. I sent an e mail to the Argentina SDA headquarters in Buenos Aires and requesting any confirmation "facts" as of this date, I have not received an answer. I did provide a link to this video clip on facebook for them to evaluate the "facts" and to get back to me. From what I could investigate on my own, I could not get any "facts" disputing the issue or supporting the issue.

Profile_default

tenga,si o no un hermano adventista eso no importa, lo importante es que estamos en los tiempos finales ya que este señor francisco viene contodo ahora a pedido que los comercios cierren los domingos y que algunos países ya lo aprobaron solo lo que queda es tener fe y esperanza en jesus por que esta serca y lo presiento cada dia que pasa, por como mi ciudad esta mas peor hay mucha maldad y eso fue lo que la hermana helena white profetizo y solo le pido a mi DIOS que no me agarre durmiendo por que todo sera tan rápido que no sabremos lo que estará pasando en el momento.he tenido muchos sueños sobre la ley dominical y no quisiera espantarlos pero despierto llorando ya que muchos amigos y conocidos son los que caen en esa dicha ley, en eso debemos de preocuparnos ya que estés papa es quien desatara la ley dominical por eso anda de visita en las américas latinas

Profile_default

Living the Gospel beloved brother will make it spread faster .... unfounded and untrue conspiracy "theories" are definitely a hindrance however there is much that goes on behind closed doors and in confederacies of evil that should be exposed...and understood by our people

Profile_default

If people spent as much time spreading the gospel as they do these stupid conspiracy theories, we'd be home already.

 

Add your comment

(required)
(not shown)
I have read and agree with the terms and conditions
 
. . . these kinds of sensational rumours get people excited, but ultimately breed cynicism.
 

Latest Record

Adventist Record - July 19, 2014

Screen_shot_2014-07-18_at_9

Solomon Islands celebrate 100 years of Adventism | New initiative to shape lifelong faith in children | Saving the devil  More

Signs of the Times

Survival of the Fittest

Survivalofthefittest_small

Scott Wegener ponders why it is that some people choose a “torturous” life over one more comfortable.